We can order a Canyon with the right length (to some extent) stem - this is absolutely revolutionary! Next we may even be able to re-spec the crank length!
Seriously, I do need a much longer stem on stock bikes, and I need a zero-setback post. I'd already be out the cost of the stem plus maybe the cockpit, and possibly also the seatpost. And they stock my size with 170mm cranks, whereas I prefer 165s. By the time all the shouting and screaming is done, I'd be left wondering if I should have got a custom frame.
Yep, I'm largely in the same boat as you (as I think you and I have discussed before). I think Canyon has often gotten a bit of a pass for not offering customizable component sizes because their bikes are so much less expensive than mainstream brands, but now that cockpits have gotten so integrated, even a minor stem length change can now cost you US$300 or more when all is said and done. Frustrating for sure, although it should perhaps be noted that few mainstream brands allow that sort of selection from the factory, either.
You think? I dunno, my impression was more that he was doing his best to be truthful in his answer without revealing more than he was allowed to. Seemed reasonable to me all things considered.
I own a Trek ProjectOne Rail long-travel ebike frame (I got it with mid-spec parts for a screaming deal off the floor at my local Trek dealer in June 2022, and have been upgrading it since). Shortly thereafter, Trek discontinued ProjectOne for mountain bikes, which I thought was a shame.
I love the idea of custom paint, and I'm a very fancy little mountain cyclist in general, and it's not like factory options such as this are cheap at all, but I've looked into aftermarket, and it's just a huge pain in the butt, both price and logistics. From the factory would be much preferable, but the existing programs I'm aware of prioritize road bikes, which I don't have a great deal of interest in.
Propain does have an interesting customization tool that is standard, but it's pretty bare-bones and often times the options don't make a great deal of sense for a given frame color.
Good moves by Canyon, but still work to do I think. I bought my last road bike from Factor, and their customization was a BIG draw, as well as the bike fitting from ACME bikes in NY. I was able to chose my own wheels, crank length, seat post set back, stem length, bar width…. While the bike was not cheap, it fits like a glove :-)
For sure, I see this 100% as Canyon testing the waters for a bigger initiative later, which I hope is actually coming because I do think it'd be a very big deal. It also makes sense that this is launching first in the US. I believe it's their smallest market since it's still so new here, and Canyon would want to work out the kinks on a smaller scale before going bigger.
We can order a Canyon with the right length (to some extent) stem - this is absolutely revolutionary! Next we may even be able to re-spec the crank length!
Seriously, I do need a much longer stem on stock bikes, and I need a zero-setback post. I'd already be out the cost of the stem plus maybe the cockpit, and possibly also the seatpost. And they stock my size with 170mm cranks, whereas I prefer 165s. By the time all the shouting and screaming is done, I'd be left wondering if I should have got a custom frame.
Yep, I'm largely in the same boat as you (as I think you and I have discussed before). I think Canyon has often gotten a bit of a pass for not offering customizable component sizes because their bikes are so much less expensive than mainstream brands, but now that cockpits have gotten so integrated, even a minor stem length change can now cost you US$300 or more when all is said and done. Frustrating for sure, although it should perhaps be noted that few mainstream brands allow that sort of selection from the factory, either.
That quote from the Canyon PR guy sounds like his budget only allows for the free version of ChatGTP.
You think? I dunno, my impression was more that he was doing his best to be truthful in his answer without revealing more than he was allowed to. Seemed reasonable to me all things considered.
Still, I’m sure the PR guy will take Carson’s point on board!
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I own a Trek ProjectOne Rail long-travel ebike frame (I got it with mid-spec parts for a screaming deal off the floor at my local Trek dealer in June 2022, and have been upgrading it since). Shortly thereafter, Trek discontinued ProjectOne for mountain bikes, which I thought was a shame.
I love the idea of custom paint, and I'm a very fancy little mountain cyclist in general, and it's not like factory options such as this are cheap at all, but I've looked into aftermarket, and it's just a huge pain in the butt, both price and logistics. From the factory would be much preferable, but the existing programs I'm aware of prioritize road bikes, which I don't have a great deal of interest in.
Propain does have an interesting customization tool that is standard, but it's pretty bare-bones and often times the options don't make a great deal of sense for a given frame color.
Good moves by Canyon, but still work to do I think. I bought my last road bike from Factor, and their customization was a BIG draw, as well as the bike fitting from ACME bikes in NY. I was able to chose my own wheels, crank length, seat post set back, stem length, bar width…. While the bike was not cheap, it fits like a glove :-)
For sure, I see this 100% as Canyon testing the waters for a bigger initiative later, which I hope is actually coming because I do think it'd be a very big deal. It also makes sense that this is launching first in the US. I believe it's their smallest market since it's still so new here, and Canyon would want to work out the kinks on a smaller scale before going bigger.